Difficulty on seeking for a wife

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luckasz

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Hi brothers and sisters. I hope this post finds you well.

This is my first post here, and I'm really looking for multiple counsellors (Proverbs 11:14).

I have in a really struggling situation (I'm going desperate really). I live in a country where 97% are catholics (basically agnostics), and the rest (~200.000 people) are atheists and let's say christians (but more non-denominational evangelicals like Lakewood Church, Elevation, etc).

Currently I'm attending a smal reformed baptist church, but the problem is that we are about 20 people, where the only young girls there are my sister and a cousin. My issue is that I can't find/connect with other people (evangelicals) because my church forbids me to do so (they actually disciplined me because I wanted to go to youth reunions at another church to see if I could make some connections. I actually had some friends there). Then, I tried to connect with other people by social media, but it seems that doesn't work as well.

I've been in this church for about 4 years, and we just don't grow in number. They told me they were always 15-20 people since they started with the ministry (excommunicating ones, welcoming others).

So, I don't what to do. I feel like If I were in the US, Canada or any other protestant majority country the situation would be different, but it's nearly impossible to go there without falling into ilegal actions. Currently I'm looking for job opportunities in Canada since I'm an experienced software engineer, so let's see how that goes.

Maybe if you could help me with more recommendations, ideas, etc? I don't believe in passive prayer though, I think one has to pray, but also do something.
 
Well, I felt like I had a similar problem, even living in the US. Eventually I used a matchmaking website for christians that allowed me and others to provide very specific details about faith and practice and to carefully filter results. I am now married to the woman I met through this site, who was living in Indonesia at the time we met.

Rest assured, you are not the only christian out there searching for a faithful and godly spouse.
 
It is difficult indeed.

I also live in a country where the majority are catholic. There are several reformed denominations though but with very low attendance or the women are way younger... Have you tried joining some facebook groups for Christian singles... at least you may connect with other reformed young people in a similar situation.

I also tried "calvinist" dating apps but did not have the best experience so I would not recommend them.

Blessings!
 
Well, I felt like I had a similar problem, even living in the US. Eventually I used a matchmaking website for christians that allowed me and others to provide very specific details about faith and practice and to carefully filter results. I am now married to the woman I met through this site, who was living in Indonesia at the time we met.

Rest assured, you are not the only christian out there searching for a faithful and godly spouse.
Wow, I'm happy for you! I'm curious about your experience living in the US but struggling to find a godly woman still. Why do you think was that? Maybe I'm overlooking something (I feel like if I have the opportunity to enter into the US legally, I'd be marry in a year at most haha)
 
I would question or not if your Pastor is unintentionally border-line "forbidding you to marry?" I can understand being hesitant to venture into looking among Catholic or Atheist women, but forbidding you to look into broader Evangelistic realm seems a little questionable. As far as I know RB's do not hold to ecclesiological exclusivity. Paul commends every person to have a spouse. Your pastor should be recognizing that there are certain levels to this, i.e. the first choice would be Reformed, the next choice would be broader Evangelical, the next choice would be Catholic, the next choice would be another Religion, the last choice would be an Atheist. I dont know, maybe I am off in this, but cutting you off from all opportunity for a spouse not only seems unwise, but also dangerous.
 
It is difficult indeed.

I also live in a country where the majority are catholic. There are several reformed denominations though but with very low attendance or the women are way younger... Have you tried joining some facebook groups for Christian singles... at least you may connect with other reformed young people in a similar situation.

I also tried "calvinist" dating apps but did not have the best experience so I would not recommend them.

Blessings!
Those reformed denominations you mention can talk each other? Maybe making monthly meetings or something? Here, as far as I know, reformed churches don't talk each other (they have one thing that separates them, and that's sufficient for they to not gather together).

I tried SGS, but you have to pay to message or connect and it seems most of the people there just create an account, but don't pay anything (making impossible to connect). I'm curious about those groups you mentioned. Do you have the names of those groups?

What are you planning to do giving your cincurstances?
 
If everything you say is accurate in representing your church, I would say your pastor is being very unreasonable. I personally would look for another church where I could be in agreement on the essential issues (the gospel, doctrine of God, authority of God's Word, etc.) and go from there.

I have to say it but as a Reformed Baptist theologically, sometimes I want to bang my head against a wall when I hear how some Reformed Baptist pastors run their churches.
 
Wow, I'm happy for you! I'm curious about your experience living in the US but struggling to find a godly woman still. Why do you think was that? Maybe I'm overlooking something (I feel like if I have the opportunity to enter into the US legally, I'd be marry in a year at most haha)
I was in the military from 2009 until last year, so I moved frequently when I received new orders and also was often deployed out of the country for half the year. This combined with scarcity of unmaried women my age in the churches I attended made it very difficult to start or pursue a relationship.

In general, it seems like most people who end up married in the church here are married just as they enter adulthood, meaning they start their relationships as teens. If you are an adult already and unmarried, the field of people who are also adults and looking for a spouse is much thinner. The major benefit of matchmaking sites is that everyone on the site is looking for a spouse, and many are in the same difficult situation as you.
 
Disciplining you for wanting to go to a "youth reunion" at another church? There may be more to it than that, but on the face of it, that seems very unreasonable.
 
Those reformed denominations you mention can talk each other? Maybe making monthly meetings or something? Here, as far as I know, reformed churches don't talk each other (they have one thing that separates them, and that's sufficient for they to not gather together).

I tried SGS, but you have to pay to message or connect and it seems most of the people there just create an account, but don't pay anything (making impossible to connect). I'm curious about those groups you mentioned. Do you have the names of those groups?

What are you planning to do giving your cincurstances?


In theory, they can talk to each other but it doesn't happen in practice. The main issue is the scarcity of young people in most denominations.

I also tried SGS and Tulip Singles but my experience wasn't the best.

Some of the groups are:

Reformed Harmony, Singles of NAPARC (https://opc.org/feature.html?feature_id=424)
, Reformed Conservative Singles.
 
I'm in a somewhat similar situation, although I live in a very Reformed-saturated area of the US. The fact is that it gets much harder to find a spouse if you don't marry young in Reformed circles. I can vouch for Singles of NAPARC (although it is required that you belong to a NAPARC church and subscribe to either the Westminster or Three Forms of Unity). As a Baptist, you may have greater success on SGS, as it tends to attract more Reformed Baptists and Calvinistic evangelicals. However, I would still approach it with some caution, especially if you're sensitive to rejection (it is a very common experience to get ignored and left on read on that platform) .

And finally, don't forget prayer and the doctrine of providence in your search. Adam literally had zero options before God created Eve, and as difficult as our situations may seem, we serve the same God who provides wonderfully for His children. "House and riches are the inheritance of fathers: and a prudent wife is from the Lord" (Prov. 19:14).
 
I would question or not if your Pastor is unintentionally border-line "forbidding you to marry?" I can understand being hesitant to venture into looking among Catholic or Atheist women, but forbidding you to look into broader Evangelistic realm seems a little questionable. As far as I know RB's do not hold to ecclesiological exclusivity. Paul commends every person to have a spouse. Your pastor should be recognizing that there are certain levels to this, i.e. the first choice would be Reformed, the next choice would be broader Evangelical, the next choice would be Catholic, the next choice would be another Religion, the last choice would be an Atheist. I dont know, maybe I am off in this, but cutting you off from all opportunity for a spouse not only seems unwise, but also dangerous.
Yeah, well, the argument was that if I went there I'd be participating in a "strange fire" worship (becuase they have several instruments and sing contemporary worship music). Another argument was that, young gatherings are not scriptural and also dangereous. I was about to be firmed to my convictions (that I could do that), but my family started to cry and I just got emotional by that situation and ended up renouncing to what I wanted to do.

Oh, I didn't know about the possibility of a christian to marry a non-christian without sinning. Is that what you meant or I just miss understood? If I didn't, do you have some articles, vlogs, etc. where I can read that topic?
 
If everything you say is accurate in representing your church, I would say your pastor is being very unreasonable. I personally would look for another church where I could be in agreement on the essential issues (the gospel, doctrine of God, authority of God's Word, etc.) and go from there.

I have to say it but as a Reformed Baptist theologically, sometimes I want to bang my head against a wall when I hear how some Reformed Baptist pastors run their churches.
Yes, it's 100% accurate (Maybe I can add more details, but generally speaking, that's the situation and God knows I'm not falling into Deuteronomy 5:20). I tried to look some other reformed churches, but there aren't (as far as I could look). Anyways, if there were some, only by thinking all of the scrutiunity, arguments, counter arguments, etc. that I have to pass through in order to change from local church (without dividing the church and go in peace), it makes me be exhausted even before starting the conversation.
 
the next choice would be Catholic, the next choice would be another Religion, the last choice would be an Atheist. I dont know, maybe I am off in this, but cutting you off from all opportunity for a spouse not only seems unwise, but also dangerous.
"It is lawful for all sorts of people to marry, who are able with judgment to give their consent. Yet it is the duty of Christians to marry only in the Lord. And therefore such as profess the true reformed religion should not marry with infidels, papists, or other idolaters: neither should such as are godly be unequally yoked, by marrying with such as are notoriously wicked in their life, or maintain damnable heresies." - WCF 24.2
 
I'm in a somewhat similar situation, although I live in a very Reformed-saturated area of the US. The fact is that it gets much harder to find a spouse if you don't marry young in Reformed circles. I can vouch for Singles of NAPARC (although it is required that you belong to a NAPARC church and subscribe to either the Westminster or Three Forms of Unity). As a Baptist, you may have greater success on SGS, as it tends to attract more Reformed Baptists and Calvinistic evangelicals. However, I would still approach it with some caution, especially if you're sensitive to rejection (it is a very common experience to get ignored and left on read on that platform) .

And finally, don't forget prayer and the doctrine of providence in your search. Adam literally had zero options before God created Eve, and as difficult as our situations may seem, we serve the same God who provides wonderfully for His children. "House and riches are the inheritance of fathers: and a prudent wife is from the Lord" (Prov. 19:14).
Yes, I've heard that about Grand Rapids, and it's quite surprising to read that, but it makes sense too. So, what's the current situation for you there? There are not enough young (18-30) single women? Are you closed to marry to a reformed presbiteryan woman only?
 
"It is lawful for all sorts of people to marry, who are able with judgment to give their consent. Yet it is the duty of Christians to marry only in the Lord. And therefore such as profess the true reformed religion should not marry with infidels, papists, or other idolaters: neither should such as are godly be unequally yoked, by marrying with such as are notoriously wicked in their life, or maintain damnable heresies." - WCF 24.2
And I agree with that in a normal situation. But what do you do when there are no women that fit that bill? It looks like this mans Pastor is saying he can only marry or mingle with Reformed women. Wasn't Moses justified in marrying a Cushite because there were no other women in his exile? Num. 12:1. Yet in Ezra, fault was found with Israel for marrying foreign wives, because they did so not out of necessity, but out of rebellion.
 
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And I agree with that in a normal situation. But what do you do when there are no women that fit that bill?
Brother, as difficult as singleness may be (and I know from plenty of experience), Christians in this situation must remain in their single state rather than yoke themselves to unbelievers or idolaters. Marriage to an unbeliever or someone of a different religion will only end in pain, backsliding, and even apostasy. We are called to have faith, not to rebel against God's providence by marrying anyone we wish.

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" - 2 Cor. 6:14
 
As with many of the other threads on the PuritanBoard where member X says suspicious thing Y about church Z, we should acknowledge that the OP is presenting only one side of the story. Lucas, it might be good to know more about the youth gathering you were going to - what its church or denominational affilation was - along with your pastor's reasoning for not wanting you to go. It does sound awfully restrictive as you've described it, but there may be a second side to the story.

As far as your parameters for who you marry: Scripture absolutely forbids us to marry outside the faith, and Christians who do so are contractually obligating them to a lifetime of suffering and heartache, barring the Spirit's salvific work in the life of the unbelieving spouse. Marrying in the Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox churches is at best a tiny incremental improvement; they are false churches and the devout adherents in these churches are usually devout in their faithfulness to the avowed idolatries and paganisms of these bodies. A true believer should most emphatically not court any woman who is a member of these bodies.

Within evangelical Protestantism, if you marry outside the Reformed faith, you take a serious risk, and you should have a very high degree of certainty regarding three matters:
1) You should be ready and willing to lead in a firm but loving manner. Most men, at the beginning of marriage, will fail here simply because that is an ability that unfortunately takes some years of experience as a husband and father to acquire. Don't be overconfident that you have arrived here, because if you haven't, you risk turning a wife off to the Reformed faith and compounding the hardships and sorrows of your married life (as well as delaying or even destroying your prospects of winning her to your convictions).
2) Your wife should have a strong sense and conviction of the Biblical God-ordained roles in marriage. You lead (under Christ's headship) and she follows (as befits a follower of Christ). Without this, you will be significantly handicapped in your ability to bridge a gap as large as the gap between true Biblical Reformed confessionalism and generic evangelicalism in any of its many stripes.
3) Your wife should have a strong sense of a need and desire for spiritual and doctrinal growth. Even with #1 and #2 in place, if your wife has a sense of having arrived and settled in her convictions, it will be harder for her to come around to the Reformed faith. Not that I am not advocating looking for a woman who is wishy-washy, indecisive, spineless, or non-committal. You want a woman who has strong and firmly-held convictions; it's just that among those firm convictions should be a humbled awareness of her shortcomings, a sense of the importance of Scripture, and an openness to the Holy Spirit's leading. That will distinguish her from a woman who has strong but wrong convictions or a woman who is incapable of having (or worse, too dishonest to acknowledge) any real opinions of her own.

Without further knowledge of your church situation, I strongly hesitate to give you any advice here other than the default: that you should follow your pastor's guidance unless it's clearly unbiblical. I know Presbyterian polity doesn't solve all problems and the reality often falls short of the ideal, but situations like this make me more convinced of its wisdom. In a Presbyterian denomination (again, somewhat idealistically) your church's culture and doctrinal stances would be guided and restrained by the denomination, and you would have recourse to a higher body if your pastor was truly out of line. If your church is only 15-20 people, it would seem that you should have some way to seek a wife outside of that immediate body, but again, I can't speak to your specific situation without knowing the specifics.
 
I'm in a somewhat similar situation, although I live in a very Reformed-saturated area of the US. The fact is that it gets much harder to find a spouse if you don't marry young in Reformed circles. I can vouch for Singles of NAPARC (although it is required that you belong to a NAPARC church and subscribe to either the Westminster or Three Forms of Unity). As a Baptist, you may have greater success on SGS, as it tends to attract more Reformed Baptists and Calvinistic evangelicals. However, I would still approach it with some caution, especially if you're sensitive to rejection (it is a very common experience to get ignored and left on read on that platform) .
There is a Reformed Baptist Singles group on Facebook. I don't know anything about it.
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Yes, I've heard that about Grand Rapids, and it's quite surprising to read that, but it makes sense too. So, what's the current situation for you there? There are not enough young (18-30) single women? Are you closed to marry to a reformed presbiteryan woman only?
Reece has his own experiences. My own experiences with my difficulties in finding a wife are that men and women don't really want to get married (though they may say otherwise), or do not want to get married to one of the few options that they have for complicated reasons. That may sound strange to you because relatively speaking, there are an abundance of options in the US! You may find this recent article of interest that was seeking to understand this problem (though I don't agree with all of his points): https://www.challies.com/articles/lots-of-single-christians-but-few-weddings/
 
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As with many of the other threads on the PuritanBoard where member X says suspicious thing Y about church Z, we should acknowledge that the OP is presenting only one side of the story. Lucas, it might be good to know more about the youth gathering you were going to - what its church or denominational affilation was - along with your pastor's reasoning for not wanting you to go. It does sound awfully restrictive as you've described it, but there may be a second side to the story.

As far as your parameters for who you marry: Scripture absolutely forbids us to marry outside the faith, and Christians who do so are contractually obligating them to a lifetime of suffering and heartache, barring the Spirit's salvific work in the life of the unbelieving spouse. Marrying in the Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox churches is at best a tiny incremental improvement; they are false churches and the devout adherents in these churches are usually devout in their faithfulness to the avowed idolatries and paganisms of these bodies. A true believer should most emphatically not court any woman who is a member of these bodies.

Within evangelical Protestantism, if you marry outside the Reformed faith, you take a serious risk, and you should have a very high degree of certainty regarding three matters:
1) You should be ready and willing to lead in a firm but loving manner. Most men, at the beginning of marriage, will fail here simply because that is an ability that unfortunately takes some years of experience as a husband and father to acquire. Don't be overconfident that you have arrived here, because if you haven't, you risk turning a wife off to the Reformed faith and compounding the hardships and sorrows of your married life (as well as delaying or even destroying your prospects of winning her to your convictions).
2) Your wife should have a strong sense and conviction of the Biblical God-ordained roles in marriage. You lead (under Christ's headship) and she follows (as befits a follower of Christ). Without this, you will be significantly handicapped in your ability to bridge a gap as large as the gap between true Biblical Reformed confessionalism and generic evangelicalism in any of its many stripes.
3) Your wife should have a strong sense of a need and desire for spiritual and doctrinal growth. Even with #1 and #2 in place, if your wife has a sense of having arrived and settled in her convictions, it will be harder for her to come around to the Reformed faith. Not that I am not advocating looking for a woman who is wishy-washy, indecisive, spineless, or non-committal. You want a woman who has strong and firmly-held convictions; it's just that among those firm convictions should be a humbled awareness of her shortcomings, a sense of the importance of Scripture, and an openness to the Holy Spirit's leading. That will distinguish her from a woman who has strong but wrong convictions or a woman who is incapable of having (or worse, too dishonest to acknowledge) any real opinions of her own.

Without further knowledge of your church situation, I strongly hesitate to give you any advice here other than the default: that you should follow your pastor's guidance unless it's clearly unbiblical. I know Presbyterian polity doesn't solve all problems and the reality often falls short of the ideal, but situations like this make me more convinced of its wisdom. In a Presbyterian denomination (again, somewhat idealistically) your church's culture and doctrinal stances would be guided and restrained by the denomination, and you would have recourse to a higher body if your pastor was truly out of line. If your church is only 15-20 people, it would seem that you should have some way to seek a wife outside of that immediate body, but again, I can't speak to your specific situation without knowing the specifics.
Thank you very much for this exhaustive answer. I'm gonna definitely medidate on the points you made, and I actually agree with all of them.

Since you were exhaustive, I don't have any issues to be exhaustive on my story. I didn't want to put every detail because I think that's a closed issue, and my current concern is if I have definitely to relocate myself to another country or maybe moving to a non-reformed church (more evangelical, which I don't want to).

Anyways. I'll put the story point to point so anyone can read it.

1. Everything started when I wanted to start seeking for a wife and I asked my church elders to guide me on that aspect. The first answer was that I should look at the local church (which I think is the most obvious move). The problem was that at my local church, there are three single women where two of them were 40 years old (or close) and I was 29 back then, and I absolutely want to form a family so those options were impossible for me. The third sister was/is younger than me, but she has some things that I don't feel atractive.

2. They started to ask me if I'm looking for the exterior or for the interior (faith basically). I didn't find this to be relevant since the mutual attraction should be natural to both men and women, but also, both have to be in the faith to marry in the Lord.

3. We had several meetings discussing this (they were always pushing me to consider the local church sisters and If I didn't want to, my problem was more a sin problem. You could not understand this, but is a psychological thing they do). Finally, we agreed on both things could exist (attraction + faith, but attraction could be optional depending on the person and their willingness) in order to get married.

4. Then I started showing them the possibility I had to go to a youth reunion on another church (you can find them on IG @iglesiamenonitaconcordia. They are anabaptist) on Saturdays, which collided with our Saturday church study of the confession of faith. They told me that there is no way to not go to our Saturday study since I'm a member of the church and is mandatory for all to be at each service the church holds (if you don't attend to one, they will ask you about why, and if your motive doesn't make sense to them, they will call you to repent). Anyways, I argued that is a legit possibility for me to establish connection with younger christians, and so I could end up knowing a sister to whom I could marry. Also, I told them that I'd not go there every Saturday, but rather bi-weekly.

4. We keep having meetings to further discuss this issue. They recommended me to study maybe in a evangelical university (which I can't since I work, I only have free on weekends), so that option couldn't go further.

5. I didn't have strong biblical reasons why I should not go to that youth service so I decided to go anyways (using my christian liberty and liberty of conscience). Of course, before I could go with peace, I told them first. That day was a cataclysm basically, and they told me that If I really wanted to go, they expect me to go on Sunday to treat my dissobedience to local authority in front of the church (final step of Matthew 18)

6. I went that Sunday with my family, I could barely speak (they didn't allow me to present defense on my case). They showed a lot of things about the church I mentioned on point 4. How they are antinomian, mundane, etc. The only thing I found reasonable was that they celebrate Christmas, that's it. My family started to cry, everyone started to cry. My family convinced me to stay there and not go anywhere

7. Here I am two years after, writing this not knowing what else to do. I'm willing to cut the grass eternally if someone hires me in order to me to relocate my self to Canada, US, UK (idk). That's the level of determination I have, and I'll just stop fight about non-essential things. If they want to persuade me that relocation is sinning, I'll just leave with a note.

In case you would like to know more details that maybe I forgot, I can send you the Facebook account.
 
Hola Lucas, hablo español si necesitas ayuda.

Have you tried fellowship at conferences or with other churches in Latin America? There are Reformed conferences in Brazil. There is a growing Reformed Baptist group in Costa Rica. (I can put you in contact with a pastor there in San Josê). There are others, I think, in Colombia or Argentina. There are big churches in Dominican Republic. I know you would have to travel, but that might be easier than moving to North America.
 
That sounds like a complex situation. It would be great if there was someone who could mediate in this situation with your pastors. Do I understand correctly that your family (parents and any siblings) also attend this church?
 
Is this a house church? 20 people sounds like 3-4 families, and in some instances, home-church pastors can become domineering due to very little oversight. This may be a Steve Anderson type scenario? And if it is, this is very concerning.

Also, it looks like there are 9 or so Baptist Churches in your area. Becoming a member at one of them, if larger, seems like a perfectly valid reason to seek a membership transfer, as seeking a wife and finding one is a good thing.
 
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Hola Lucas, hablo español si necesitas ayuda.

Have you tried fellowship at conferences or with other churches in Latin America? There are Reformed conferences in Brazil. There is a growing Reformed Baptist group in Costa Rica. (I can put you in contact with a pastor there in San Josê). There are others, I think, in Colombia or Argentina. There are big churches in Dominican Republic. I know you would have to travel, but that might be easier than moving to North America.
Hi! Thank you brother. I'm currently working for an Argentinian company, and I travelled there several times. I know someone who is reformed, but doesn't attend to any reformed church because:

1. There are not many reformed churches there (he told me that, really speaking, there are 4 or 5)
2. Each reformed church has 10-20 members at most
3. Reformed churches don't talk to each other because of secondary separation doctrine

So, this brother and his wife attend rather to a methodist church (If I'm remember correctly) and he doesn't recommend me to go there.

About conferences, my local church is totally against conferences and seminars. They see those events as sinful, so I don't think I can go there if I don't leave this church first. And yeah, I'm aware of more reformed baptist on other countries, but the elders of my local church are really hesistate towards making communion or contact with others who don't share the same ideas. We tried before, but we couldn't go further since any little doctrinal difference will make my local church to not hangging with them.

Anyways, if you have some reformed church names, I can try to visit (by social media) and maybe contacting with the local pastor there.
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That sounds like a complex situation. It would be great if there was someone who could mediate in this situation with your pastors. Do I understand correctly that your family (parents and any siblings) also attend this church?
Would be great, but we are independent so, I don't think the elders will allow people to try to convinced them of something. They might be open to talk about issues, but I don't think they will change their minds. Ultimately, depending on the situation and issue touched, they might even call the mediator to repentance. My mother, sister and cousin attend with me here.
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Is this a house church? 20 people sounds like 3-4 families, and in some instances, home-church pastors can become domineering due to very little oversight. This may be a Steve Anderson type scenario? And if it is, this is very concerning.

Also, it looks like there are 9 or so Baptist Churches in your area. Becoming a member at one of them, if larger, seems like a perfectly valid reason to seek a membership transfer, as seeking a wife and finding one is a good thing.
Yes, it's a house church. We indeed are 4 families and some independent members let's say. I don't know who Steve Anderson is, but I'll take a look.

Did you search on google maps or which platform did you use to find those churches? I know there are some churches that put reformed on their title, but they are not really reformed (meaning, they are not confessional). They are more serious evangelical to put it in some way. Really reformed churches appart from us, I think there's one or two forming in, but they are not yet defined.
 
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I will be in prayer for you, Lucas. The doctrine of secondary separation is a most pernicious error and if your church holds to that then I am sorry to hear that. The fact that your family attends this church as well makes the matter more difficult. I don't have any good advice for you on this matter but perhaps some of the people on this board can help to connect you with someone in your area who can give wise counsel. Perhaps some of the pastors on here can weigh in as well. :confused:
 
What I was meaning by 8-9 other Baptist churches, is these churches appear to be Baptist churches whether they claim to be "Reformed" or not. Even though I subscribe (or at least try to to the best of my ability) to the 1689 LBCF, I attend an SBC church that is not officially Confessional, as, I live in a small TX town, and there isnt one in my county. It is a blessing that our Pastor is Calvinist, but the "Baptist" does creep through sometimes in that in many Baptist churches there is a mixture of Arminians and Calvinists. But, it is still a wonderful church, and I get whole-heartily fed every Lords Day. I would prefer a RBC, but, I also feel blessed to be in the church I am, considering there isn't one in my area. Even the only Presbyterian church in my area is PCUSA.

So what I am saying is, even though you are confessional, and would prefer a Reformed church, I wouldn't get so hung-up, at least being Baptist, on the "Reformed" part, if it is possible for you to find a theologically conservative Baptist church in your area that could lend to opening up more opportunities for marriage and to start a family. Looking on Google, the following Baptist Churches showed up:

Villa Morra Baptist Church
4.9(49) · Church
Av. República Argentina 691
Open 24 hours · +595 21 600 020

Convención Evangélica Bautista del Paraguay
4.6(21) · Baptist church
Silvio Pettirossi 593
Open ⋅ Closes 12 PM · +595 21 227 110

Good News Baptist Church
4.8(24) · Baptist church
M9R9+8FX, Av. José Felix Bogado
Closed ⋅ Opens 7 PM Thu · +595 983 539845

Iglesia Bautista Santificada del Paraguay
4.3(25) · Baptist church
Fernando de la Mora, Paraguay
+595 21 503 626

Primera Iglesia Bautista de Fernando de la Mora
4.7(108) · Baptist church
Fernando de la Mora, Paraguay
Closed ⋅ Opens 5 PM · +595 21 524 318

Iglesia Bautista Nueva Vida
4.6(28) · Baptist church
MCP4+GFX
Closed ⋅ Opens 7 PM Sat · +595 971 146588

Iglesia Bautista Emmanuel - Centro Educativo
5.0(1) · Baptist church
Lapacho 777
Closed ⋅ Opens 8 PM Sat · +595 21 550 064

Iglesia Bautista del Calvario
4.6(9) · Baptist church
PCMM+F74, Teniente Rivas
+595 981 735820
"Great little Reformed Baptist Church."

Iglesia Bautista Jesus Mi salvador
5.0(2) · Baptist church
Asunción, Paraguay
Closed ⋅ Opens 9 AM Sat · +595 982 390647

One even says it is a Reformed Baptist Church, and I don't know if this is the one you already go to. But possibly call around to these places, explain to the Pastor your love for the Lord, and your desire to start a family, and inquire on the possibility of women your age being there (as you don't want to end up in the same situation you are in) and possibly consider, after a few visits, a transfer of membership. Nothing against your present church or pastor, but starting a family is important. And I saw in your area, it is extremely bombarded with Catholic Churches, so, if your Pastor is against you networking even among Baptist circles, you might have to do it yourself. I am trying to be careful here because I do not want to seem to be sowing discord between you and your church home. But the older you get, the less likely you are going to find someone younger, or someone who already doesn't have multiple kids from previous marriages, or who hasn't already been married and divorced, etc. With there being 8 or 9 other Baptist churches in your area, that is a blessing in the midst of all that Catholicism, to be able to reach out to them and broaden your horizons to find a godly wife, even if it is not among your "exact" Baptist tradition, it is among the Baptist tradition none the less. And, as the leader of your home, you can move your family back into a Reformed Baptist and Confessional setting if possible. The thing is, you need a family first before you can do that.
 
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What I was meaning by 8-9 other Baptist churches, is these churches appear to be Baptist churches whether they claim to be "Reformed" or not. Even though I subscribe (or at least try to to the best of my ability) to the 1689 LBCF, I attend an SBC church that is not officially Confessional, as, I live in a small TX town, and there isnt one in my county. It is a blessing that our Pastor is Calvinist, but the "Baptist" does creep through sometimes in that in many Baptist churches there is a mixture of Arminians and Calvinists. But, it is still a wonderful church, and I get whole-heartily fed every Lords Day. I would prefer a RBC, but, I also feel blessed to be in the church I am, considering there isn't one in my area. Even the only Presbyterian church in my area is PCUSA.

So what I am saying is, even though you are confessional, and would prefer a Reformed church, I wouldn't get so hung-up, at least being Baptist, on the "Reformed" part, if it is possible for you to find a theologically conservative Baptist church in your area that could lend to opening up more opportunities for marriage and to start a family. Looking on Google, the following Baptist Churches showed up:

Villa Morra Baptist Church
4.9(49) · Church
Av. República Argentina 691
Open 24 hours · +595 21 600 020

Convención Evangélica Bautista del Paraguay
4.6(21) · Baptist church
Silvio Pettirossi 593
Open ⋅ Closes 12 PM · +595 21 227 110

Good News Baptist Church
4.8(24) · Baptist church
M9R9+8FX, Av. José Felix Bogado
Closed ⋅ Opens 7 PM Thu · +595 983 539845

Iglesia Bautista Santificada del Paraguay
4.3(25) · Baptist church
Fernando de la Mora, Paraguay
+595 21 503 626

Primera Iglesia Bautista de Fernando de la Mora
4.7(108) · Baptist church
Fernando de la Mora, Paraguay
Closed ⋅ Opens 5 PM · +595 21 524 318

Iglesia Bautista Nueva Vida
4.6(28) · Baptist church
MCP4+GFX
Closed ⋅ Opens 7 PM Sat · +595 971 146588

Iglesia Bautista Emmanuel - Centro Educativo
5.0(1) · Baptist church
Lapacho 777
Closed ⋅ Opens 8 PM Sat · +595 21 550 064

Iglesia Bautista del Calvario
4.6(9) · Baptist church
PCMM+F74, Teniente Rivas
+595 981 735820
"Great little Reformed Baptist Church."

Iglesia Bautista Jesus Mi salvador
5.0(2) · Baptist church
Asunción, Paraguay
Closed ⋅ Opens 9 AM Sat · +595 982 390647

One even says it is a Reformed Baptist Church, and I don't know if this is the one you already go to. But possibly call around to these places, explain to the Pastor your love for the Lord, and your desire to start a family, and inquire on the possibility of women your age being there (as you don't want to end up in the same situation you are in) and possibly consider, after a few visits, a transfer of membership. Nothing against your present church or pastor, but starting a family is important. And I saw in your area, it is extremely bombarded with Catholic Churches, so, if your Pastor is against you networking even among Baptist circles, you might have to do it yourself. I am trying to be careful here because I do not want to seem to be sowing discord between you and your church home. But the older you get, the less likely you are going to find someone younger, or someone who already doesn't have multiple kids from previous marriages, or who hasn't already been married and divorced, etc. With there being 8 or 9 other Baptist churches in your area, that is a blessing in the midst of all that Catholicism, to be able to reach out to them and broaden your horizons to find a godly wife, even if it is not among your "exact" Baptist tradition, it is among the Baptist tradition none the less.
Thank you David for taking your time for doing this.

I get what you meant before, and from all of those churches, the only "reformed" church is the one you put the bold type. I think our church tried to talk with them, but the connection broke down because some things that our elders saw about them and just applied the secondary separation doctrine again.

The other ones are really penthecostals, like continuationist charismatic (in different degrees) baptists and I'll have a hard time there if I join them. But I totally understand what you mean by trying to contact the pastor there and ask if they are willing to help me coursthip a sister that might be there in the same situation as I am. So, maybe I'll take that approach. Going there personally will cause me to get disciplined again and maybe excomulgated (it'd be my second time falling into the same thing).

I really appreciate your ideas David. I'll try to see how I can take that approach (contacting with those churches pastors).
 
Lucas - how did you come to be in your current church? How long have you been there? Do you have any mentors, friends, or spiritual advisers that you talk to outside of your church - anybody that is familiar with your current situation?
 
Lucas - how did you come to be in your current church? How long have you been there? Do you have any mentors, friends, or spiritual advisers that you talk to outside of your church - anybody that is familiar with your current situation?
I came to the faith during 2020, and I started to look for churches. I found that church I mentioned before (the anabaptist one where I wanted to go to their youth reunion again) and I started to go there. I had an issue with the pastor (he constantly made jokes during sermons and I didn't find that to be serious towards God). I was like a little uncomfortable when he preached (he didn't preach very often), but everything else was really good for me. Btw, that pastor is no longer there, so I don't what happened. Anyways, I was constantly meditating, listening sermons and came to the knowlegde of the reformation. I started to listen a lot of reformed preachers like: Edwards, Whitefield, Spurgeon, Lloyd-Jones, etc. and I was totally shocked about how serious they took the word of God and I knew that I wanted to be in a church where the word of God is taken seriously. So, a cousin of mine was attending to this local church where I'm currently in, and she invited me to go there. I started to go there as visitor (I was about to become a member from that anabaptist church), and then I convinced myself for actually stop with the membership program on the other church and started to go to this reformed baptist.

They told me that I must agree with the confession (2LCF) and with the church polity, which I didn't find any issues with those. I think that I still agree whith what those documents say. The problem was/is that it turns out that you have to also agree with their interpretation of the confession. You are not allowed to have your own interpretation about what the confession says about a topic. So, we can be both agree on what the confession of faith says, but if we interpret some parts differently, we might have problems, and real problems (problems that would lead you to discipline since you are not submitting to the local church authority).

That's the story. I've been here for 4 years already and no, there's no one outisde of our local church that is aware of this situation. Actually, my sister and cousin are also kind of desperate since they don't have any idea on how they will find for a husband. They are way younger than me, but they are women, so, it's different and I totally understand them.
 
I still hesitate (especially as a lay-person) to comment on the situation, but what you say does sound a bit "cult-y" to me. The search for correct doctrine should not come at the expense of overwrought authoritarianism and helpless isolation. Not much more I can offer by way of advice, but I will be praying.
 
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