Family Guy???

["William The Baptist"]

(insert activity that falls within Christian liberty here).

Just curious, but how do you define "Christian Liberty"?

Sure. It's the freedom that we have in Christ to make judgment calls regarding what we do or do not partake in, if it's not clearly delineated in Scripture as sinful. I look see this in Romans 14, among other places. I personally have a difficult time saying (or deducing from Scripture) that watching a show that contains some off-color humor as sinful.

That's certainly not to say that everyone should partake (just as some should not partake in, say, alcohol), but I can't tell EVERY Christian that they're sinning for doing so (just like with alcohol).

It seems that such liberty focuses on man, what man wants, what man deems acceptable... all about man. Isn't liberty freedom from the curse of the law?-not liberty from the law. We are submitting either to God, or that which opposes God. That which we partake in is not neutral. It seems to me many Christians (not aiming this at you, more for discussion purposes) use such liberty to do what they wish... which subjugating ourselves to such worldliness and blatant wickedness is only desensitizing us-we are no longer shocked by sin. I know it has been true in my own life in years past, but only because of The Lord's grace and overwhelming conviction on my life have I become painfully aware of that which I used to be "numb" to! We are slaves, bondservants, to Christ, we are not our own, we were bought with a price; so we are either slaves to sin or slaves to Christ. We either have liberty to continue in sin, or liberty FROM sin (not TO sin).

I see your parallel to alcohol, but I am cautious of such an approach. Alcohol is not sin. Drunkenness is clearly sin. Therefore you could never tell any Christian that is drinking alcohol that he/she is sinning, that is absurdity. If they stumble and it is a weakness, of course it is wise to abstain from it. However, there are boundaries such as, I am not yet 21 (only a couple of weeks!) and in the states it is not legal for me to drink (unless under parental supervision on private property), so it WOULD be a sin for me to drink-as I would be breaking the law. God has ordained such a legal system to be over me, albeit a very corrupt unbiblical one, but I still submit to its authority in as far as it does not go against scripture. I digress.

As for "watching" sin and not partaking in it, I would question why, as Christians, we would ever care to take our pleasure, enjoyment, and leisure time to bask in an medium that promotes and endorses such vulgarity and mocks God's law and truth for our amusement. Amuse, by the way, can be broken down to a - muse (against thinking/thought!); I wonder why we would wish to be amused by blatant sinful behaviors?

If presented in a biblically sound manner, where sin is wicked and abhorred, then I do not see how it could be wrong to incorporate that a book or movie (given it is not inappropriate). But, hollywood and most movies glorify sin, not abhor it.

Ultimately in light of the redemption at Calvary and all that God has done for us, (this is normally when I tell my friends in person, if the Almighty God of heaven knew me before the foundations of the world, chose me as His own, showed such incomprehensible kindness as to love me, but made a way for my to love Him by His atoning sacrifice and redemption work... not only did He know me, choose me, love me, redeem me, but He didn't leave me there but allowed lifelong sanctification!- with such unfathomable grace bestowed upon my life, how could I ever breathe or live steeped in selfishness?- in light of His grace, I am surrendered to such grace, by such grace!) I just don't see the point in debating Christian Liberty in a sense of how close can I get to sin without it actually being sin. I have a huge issue with that, maybe because it was so prevalent in my younger years in youth groups and the like.

No one is perfect. Myself probably more than I can bear to admit! I skimmed the posts and I did agree with a lot of the things you had to say. (Esp your last post) Agreed, this discussion really blew up. Hope my post wasn't too !!

 

[MICWARFIELD]

I think it's a very funny show, but I rarely watch it anymore. It's gotten much worse than it once was. Every now and then, my wife will turn it on, but we turn it off if it gets blasphemous. One reason she likes to occasionally watch it, is that a close relative of ours is one of the main artists for the show. He has also worked on King Of The Hill, Avatar, and some others. I rarely watch TV, other than the news ( I would much rather be reading a good book ), but I do like King Of The Hill. It's much cleaner, and I don't really find anything offensive about it (other than their female United Methodist minister).

By the way, I remember talking with our relative a few years back, and he himself was actually becoming quite conflicted about drawing for The Family Guy. He's a Christian, and was really struggling with the direction the show was heading in. I'm not sure whether he ended up quitting his job or not.

 

[GulfCoast Presbyterian]

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My old church when still in the PCA brought a resolution to presbytery about that film; we posted it online (presbytery didn't go for it if I recall; one said 'we don't do movie reviews'). We were still getting hate mail now and then ten years plus later.
Faith Presbyterian Church Reformed

I remember, back in the dark ages of college, I had to go watch "The Last Temptation of Christ" for a class. There were fundy church folks picketing the movie when I went into the coffee house where it was playing. I remember asking myself, "is it blasphemy to watch Jesus be tempted at his crucifiction to abondon the cross, marry Mary Magdalene, and live a normal life with a bunch of kids? Especially since he ultimately ends up choosing the cross (but barely)?" That movie, insidious as it was probably intended to be, at least made me think, consider the nature of temptation, and the dual nature of Christ, although it made me incredibly uncomfortable. The one episode I saw of Family Guy where they had "Jesus" doing magic tricks at a birthday party did not make me think or consider theology, it made me just change the channel once I figured out there was no "redemptive message" and just mocked the savior. Neither here nor there, just a stray thought.

Lest anyone misunderstand, I very much do NOT recomend that movie.

 

[ac7k]

I will admit I used to watch it several years ago until my conscience wouldn't let me any longer. I have since repented. Yes, it's a blasphemous show indeed. I can remember episodes with a character supposed to be Christ and he would do all manner of stupid, blasphemous things. There is absolutely no excuse for a Christian to watch this show.

I agree with Andrew... There is nothing beneficial for a Christian to watch it. Downright awful, I would not allow it in my house.

 

[AlexanderHenderson1647]

Let me make it as black and white as I can. I could justify watching p0rnography using some of the lines of reasoning I've seen presented here in this thread for "Christian liberty." 'Well, I just watch for an artistic rendition of love between a man and a woman and I think about it only in artistic terms. Sure, it is sinful and the creation of it was for nothing but Godless ends, but that doesn't mean that I can't watch it and "understand" the world around me without polluting myself. And besides, it can show me how to redemptively enjoy Biblical sexual relations if I just glean the "common grace" portrayed on screen.' Guys, see this for what it is. You've created a license for sin and a big "neutral zone" for indulging in the things of this world for the sake of "art" and "redeeming" a patently sinful thing. I would wager that there are only a handful of episodes that have a foundation on anything more than a purely hedonistic and vile. That is why I hate the broad brush stroke that "art" paints- anything portrayed "artistically" automatically gets a pass on the grounds that it is art! I don't want naked bodies, God's name taken in vain, His image portrayed ("negatively" or "positively"), murder displayed, etc, etc. God hates these things and so must I.

Here is my only concession - if someone can honestly say, the ones I watch have been edited for sinful content and I watch only those with enjoyment. Fine. Christian liberty, absolutely. But don't give me this, "I can watch sin glorified, enjoy it and God doesn't mind!!!" Matthew 5:19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven..." Honestly, I would recommend if you are enjoying sinful portrayals of whatever stripe that you should put yourself under the care of your elders immediately for your soul is in peril.

 

[Zenas]

Let me make it as black and white as I can. I could justify watching p0rnography using some of the lines of reasoning I've seen presented here in this thread for "Christian liberty." 'Well, I just watch for an artistic rendition of love between a man and a woman and I think about it only in artistic terms. Sure, it is sinful and the creation of it was for nothing but Godless ends, but that doesn't mean that I can't watch it and "understand" the world around me without polluting myself. And besides, it can show me how to redemptively enjoy Biblical sexual relations if I just glean the "common grace" portrayed on screen.' Guys, see this for what it is. You've created a license for sin and a big "neutral zone" for indulging in the things of this world for the sake of "art" and "redeeming" a patently sinful thing. I would wager that there are only a handful of episodes that have a foundation on anything more than a purely hedonistic and vile. That is why I hate the broad brush stroke that "art" paints- anything portrayed "artistically" automatically gets a pass on the grounds that it is art! I don't want naked bodies, God's name taken in vain, His image portrayed ("negatively" or "positively"), murder displayed, etc, etc. God hates these things and so must I.

Here is my only concession - if someone can honestly say, the ones I watch have been edited for sinful content and I watch only those with enjoyment. Fine. Christian liberty, absolutely. But don't give me this, "I can watch sin glorified, enjoy it and God doesn't mind!!!" Matthew 5:19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven..." Honestly, I would recommend if you are enjoying sinful portrayals of whatever stripe that you should put yourself under the care of your elders immediately for your soul is in peril.

Taking your view to it's logical end, you are not permitted to read fictions books which contain any deviation from God's Law. If someone breaks the Sabbath in the book, you're engaging in the same behavior you're accusing those who watch Family Guy of.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you in the conclusion. The road that you're using to get there seems way off track though. Obviously, there must be some reason why watching a show like Family Guy ought to be avoided without forbidding being exposed to fiction or comedy.

 

[yoyoceramic]

So Daniel,
God thinks it is okay if you set p0rn, blasphemy, idolatry, drunkenness, adultery, bestiality, thievery, bearing false witness, a breaking of every command constantly in front of your eyes and those around you in the supposed name of Liberty? Where does this label of Liberty come from? Liberty expresses things that aren't sin. The stuff I specifically named are not negotiables. They are sin. At least Lot was vexed in his spirit. And if something vex's your spirit how could you in good conscience before man and God say this is a matter of Liberty?

Isn't the Old Testament full of this stuff? We still read the Old Testament don't we?

 

[Scottish Lass]

Isn't the Old Testament full of this stuff? We still read the Old Testament don't we?

And each event in the OT points to God and His glory. Family Guy does not.

 

[JennyG]

I've fortunately never seen that show, so I never had to give it up. Other things I have had to. Philippians 4 v 8 says,
...whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
I don't think many shows qualify as things to be "thought on", by that rule.
Maybe but it seems to me a compelling enough reason also for not watching eg Friends or Red Dwarf, clever and funny though they both are - and for not reading xkcd

 

[PuritanCovenanter]

So Daniel,
God thinks it is okay if you set p0rn, blasphemy, idolatry, drunkenness, adultery, bestiality, thievery, bearing false witness, a breaking of every command constantly in front of your eyes and those around you in the supposed name of Liberty? Where does this label of Liberty come from? Liberty expresses things that aren't sin. The stuff I specifically named are not negotiables. They are sin. At least Lot was vexed in his spirit. And if something vex's your spirit how could you in good conscience before man and God say this is a matter of Liberty?

Isn't the Old Testament full of this stuff? We still read the Old Testament don't we?

It isn't the same. It rebukes it and uses it in a way that is God honoring. The Bible is a book about people who are bad and need rebuking. It doesn't glorify sin but shows what it looks like before God. Family Guy doesn't.

 

[AlexanderHenderson1647]

Let me make it as black and white as I can. I could justify watching p0rnography using some of the lines of reasoning I've seen presented here in this thread for "Christian liberty." 'Well, I just watch for an artistic rendition of love between a man and a woman and I think about it only in artistic terms. Sure, it is sinful and the creation of it was for nothing but Godless ends, but that doesn't mean that I can't watch it and "understand" the world around me without polluting myself. And besides, it can show me how to redemptively enjoy Biblical sexual relations if I just glean the "common grace" portrayed on screen.' Guys, see this for what it is. You've created a license for sin and a big "neutral zone" for indulging in the things of this world for the sake of "art" and "redeeming" a patently sinful thing. I would wager that there are only a handful of episodes that have a foundation on anything more than a purely hedonistic and vile. That is why I hate the broad brush stroke that "art" paints- anything portrayed "artistically" automatically gets a pass on the grounds that it is art! I don't want naked bodies, God's name taken in vain, His image portrayed ("negatively" or "positively"), murder displayed, etc, etc. God hates these things and so must I.

Here is my only concession - if someone can honestly say, the ones I watch have been edited for sinful content and I watch only those with enjoyment. Fine. Christian liberty, absolutely. But don't give me this, "I can watch sin glorified, enjoy it and God doesn't mind!!!" Matthew 5:19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven..." Honestly, I would recommend if you are enjoying sinful portrayals of whatever stripe that you should put yourself under the care of your elders immediately for your soul is in peril.

Taking your view to it's logical end, you are not permitted to read fictions books which contain any deviation from God's Law. If someone breaks the Sabbath in the book, you're engaging in the same behavior you're accusing those who watch Family Guy of.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you in the conclusion. The road that you're using to get there seems way off track though. Obviously, there must be some reason why watching a show like Family Guy ought to be avoided without forbidding being exposed to fiction or comedy.

I hope I'm not being confusing. My point is not that something bad can't be presented to a degree or even implied in fiction/art. But overt glorification and jesting as the context is a compromise of the Christ's higher call. I don't think that it is the "logical conclusion" that one must not ever reference things, like your example Sabbath breaking, but if there was a show that glorified it, then yes, I'd say flee the temptation of begin allured by glorifying one of the things God hate. Think about it. I think you've understood my point wrong.

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Let me make it as black and white as I can. I could justify watching p0rnography using some of the lines of reasoning I've seen presented here in this thread for "Christian liberty." 'Well, I just watch for an artistic rendition of love between a man and a woman and I think about it only in artistic terms. Sure, it is sinful and the creation of it was for nothing but Godless ends, but that doesn't mean that I can't watch it and "understand" the world around me without polluting myself. And besides, it can show me how to redemptively enjoy Biblical sexual relations if I just glean the "common grace" portrayed on screen.' Guys, see this for what it is. You've created a license for sin and a big "neutral zone" for indulging in the things of this world for the sake of "art" and "redeeming" a patently sinful thing. I would wager that there are only a handful of episodes that have a foundation on anything more than a purely hedonistic and vile. That is why I hate the broad brush stroke that "art" paints- anything portrayed "artistically" automatically gets a pass on the grounds that it is art! I don't want naked bodies, God's name taken in vain, His image portrayed ("negatively" or "positively"), murder displayed, etc, etc. God hates these things and so must I.

Here is my only concession - if someone can honestly say, the ones I watch have been edited for sinful content and I watch only those with enjoyment. Fine. Christian liberty, absolutely. But don't give me this, "I can watch sin glorified, enjoy it and God doesn't mind!!!" Matthew 5:19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven..." Honestly, I would recommend if you are enjoying sinful portrayals of whatever stripe that you should put yourself under the care of your elders immediately for your soul is in peril.

Taking your view to it's logical end, you are not permitted to read fictions books which contain any deviation from God's Law. If someone breaks the Sabbath in the book, you're engaging in the same behavior you're accusing those who watch Family Guy of.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you in the conclusion. The road that you're using to get there seems way off track though. Obviously, there must be some reason why watching a show like Family Guy ought to be avoided without forbidding being exposed to fiction or comedy.

I hope I'm not being confusing. My point is not that something bad can't be presented to a degree or even implied in fiction/art. But overt glorification and jesting as the context is a compromise of the Christ's higher call. I don't think that it is the "logical conclusion" that one must not ever reference things, like your example Sabbath breaking, but if there was a show that glorified it, then yes, I'd say flee the temptation of begin allured by glorifying one of the things God hate. Think about it. I think you've understood my point wrong.

 

[jennywigg]

It might also be asked WHY the show portrays the sins it does. A show with a drunk character can show the devastating results of drunkeness. A sexually-loose character can learn the damage that sin causes in mind and body. But the purpose of shows like Family Guy, Two and a Half Men, etc. is to make you laugh at sin. Only fools make a mock at sin.

Just what I was thinking but couldn't put into words. Folks are making the point that we can watch sin without sinning ourselves. That's true, if we're "observing" someone sinning, even on a movie or t.v. show. But to watch and laugh along with people who are grossly sinning is, to me, giving a big thumbs-up to the sin.

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Let me make it as black and white as I can. I could justify watching p0rnography using some of the lines of reasoning I've seen presented here in this thread for "Christian liberty." 'Well, I just watch for an artistic rendition of love between a man and a woman and I think about it only in artistic terms. Sure, it is sinful and the creation of it was for nothing but Godless ends, but that doesn't mean that I can't watch it and "understand" the world around me without polluting myself. And besides, it can show me how to redemptively enjoy Biblical sexual relations if I just glean the "common grace" portrayed on screen.' Guys, see this for what it is. You've created a license for sin and a big "neutral zone" for indulging in the things of this world for the sake of "art" and "redeeming" a patently sinful thing. I would wager that there are only a handful of episodes that have a foundation on anything more than a purely hedonistic and vile. That is why I hate the broad brush stroke that "art" paints- anything portrayed "artistically" automatically gets a pass on the grounds that it is art! I don't want naked bodies, God's name taken in vain, His image portrayed ("negatively" or "positively"), murder displayed, etc, etc. God hates these things and so must I.

Here is my only concession - if someone can honestly say, the ones I watch have been edited for sinful content and I watch only those with enjoyment. Fine. Christian liberty, absolutely. But don't give me this, "I can watch sin glorified, enjoy it and God doesn't mind!!!" Matthew 5:19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven..." Honestly, I would recommend if you are enjoying sinful portrayals of whatever stripe that you should put yourself under the care of your elders immediately for your soul is in peril.

Taking your view to it's logical end, you are not permitted to read fictions books which contain any deviation from God's Law. If someone breaks the Sabbath in the book, you're engaging in the same behavior you're accusing those who watch Family Guy of.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you in the conclusion. The road that you're using to get there seems way off track though. Obviously, there must be some reason why watching a show like Family Guy ought to be avoided without forbidding being exposed to fiction or comedy.

I'm sorry...that is a horrible comparison. Reading or watching a book/show in which someone sins is completely different from being entertained/enjoying/laughing at the sin that's being portrayed. And for anyone who wants to claim, "I'm not laughing at the actual sinful parts...just the clean parts," who are you fooling?

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[steadfast7]

I'm becoming convinced that delighting, laughing at, and being entertained by sin is wrong, but that is not the only reason people watch movies/television and listen to music. There are educational as well as culturo-redemptive aspects as well. Again, my example of film rating boards in the US and the Christians who sit on them to the glory of God.

 

[JoannaV]

The BBC shows family guy here, and they bleep out the worst language and cut the worst scenes - I think some people would be amazed/horrified if they watched it uncut.

I guess a for the BBC.

Antenna tv here censor it too, though I don't know to what degree. But I know from google that at least occasionally there will be scenes on the Cartoon Network which aren't shown on Fox.

 

[PatrickTMcWilliams]

I must say that I have been convicted by reading this discussion. Thanks to all.

 

[Andres]

Violations of the 2nd and 3rd commandment are always sin (the show regularly violates these with their supposed “Jesus” character), not an issue of Christian liberty.

Violations of any of the commandments are always sin. But this topic is not about whether or not we can engage in a certain sin. Rather, we are discussing sin that is portrayed in media, and to what extent we can be entertained by that piece of media.

No, I see the 2nd and 3rd violations differently than I do the other 8 commandments. THis is why I specifically reference those two. I recently watched a film about a group of guys who robbed banks. Obviously stealing is a violation of the 8th commandment, however watching a film where this is portrayed is not a sin in my opinion. I know it's false. No one is really stealing. My conscience was not bothered by the viewing of pretend stealing one bit. However, viewing a purported image of Christ is ALWAYS a violation of the 2nd commandment. Hearing the Lord's name taken in vain is ALWAYS a violation of the 3rd commandment. These two violations regularly occur on the show, that is why the show is sinful.

 

[Dennis1963]

I will admit I used to watch it several years ago until my conscience wouldn't let me any longer. I have since repented. Yes, it's a blasphemous show indeed. I can remember episodes with a character supposed to be Christ and he would do all manner of stupid, blasphemous things. There is absolutely no excuse for a Christian to watch this show.

I agree.
Also, this show is blatant in these things, they don't even try to hide anything. It make one wonder about those more sneaky ones.

 

[FCC]

“Let us abridge ourselves in the use of things which are in their own nature indifferent. He who will go to the utmost length of his rope will easily break it. It is difficult to know where that which is lawful ends and that which is sinful begins. He who will always go as far as he may go shall sometimes go further than he ought to go. How much safer is it to keep a foot within our limits than to go an inch beyond them? Better do less than is lawful than what is sinful.” Vincent Alsop, Practical Godliness, page 46

 

[kvanlaan]

Watching, reading, or listening to something is not where sin occurs. Rather, it is what is going on in one's heart.

If I go to a strip club and can honestly say that I am not tempted to lust after these women (perhaps my besetting sin du jour is gluttony and lust is not something that I have a problem with), does it make it OK for me to go there and enjoy the dance moves? The sin is in the lusting and not the watching, correct?

(Just to be clear, I feel that a 'gentlemen's club' is no place for a Christian. Just want to be clear...)

 

[JoannaV]

However, viewing a purported image of Christ is ALWAYS a violation of the 2nd commandment. Hearing the Lord's name taken in vain is ALWAYS a violation of the 3rd commandment.

Hearing the Lord's name taken in vain, or choosing to hear it? I guess I'm thinking about when I lived in the city, and to have avoided hearing other people take the Lord's name in vain would have involved staying inside all the time.

 

[PuritanCovenanter]

Watching, reading, or listening to something is not where sin occurs. Rather, it is what is going on in one's heart.

If I go to a strip club and can honestly say that I am not tempted to lust after these women (perhaps my besetting sin du jour is gluttony and lust is not something that I have a problem with), does it make it OK for me to go there and enjoy the dance moves? The sin is in the lusting and not the watching, correct?

(Just to be clear, I feel that a 'gentlemen's club' is no place for a Christian. Just want to be clear...)

I know you are being provocative here. At least I hope so. There are quite a few verses in the scripture about viewing nakedness. When you view the nakedness of another maiden you are viewing her father's nakedness also according to Scripture. And if I remember correctly that is a no no unless there is espousal. Maybe I am incorrect.

 

[Tripel]

Watching, reading, or listening to something is not where sin occurs. Rather, it is what is going on in one's heart.

If I go to a strip club and can honestly say that I am not tempted to lust after these women (perhaps my besetting sin du jour is gluttony and lust is not something that I have a problem with), does it make it OK for me to go there and enjoy the dance moves? The sin is in the lusting and not the watching, correct?

(Just to be clear, I feel that a 'gentlemen's club' is no place for a Christian. Just want to be clear...)

There are more problems than lust at work in a man's heart if he goes to such clubs. So no, I'd say that is not OK.

I didn't engage in this debate in order to justify anything--I want to make that clear. I'm not justifying Family Guy or anything else. Rather, I'm trying to make the focus less about what is in front of our eyes and in our ears, and more about what is in our hearts when we pursue those things.

 

[athanatos]

I don't really watch TV, so by implication I don't watch Family Guy, King of the Hill, or South Park. I've seen all of them before. South Park and Family Guy the most. They give insight to modern Western culture 9namely, American) and the common view of religion. This can give a helpful critique to either. Sometimes having the Christian/religious caricature stare at you on the screen is what you need to see your own sin. But most of the time, the good insight is outweighed by the bad everything else.

 

[Andres]

Sometimes having the Christian/religious caricature stare at you on the screen is what you need to see your own sin.

I thought that was what The Law is for?

 

[ZackF]

I thought about replying quickly but some might find me casting stones where I shouldn't. My wife and I find Family Guy vile and offensive. However, we both immensely enjoy Scrubs. I think the shows are miles apart in merit and entertainment value but I imagine some here disagree.

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However, viewing a purported image of Christ is ALWAYS a violation of the 2nd commandment. Hearing the Lord's name taken in vain is ALWAYS a violation of the 3rd commandment.

Hearing the Lord's name taken in vain, or choosing to hear it? I guess I'm thinking about when I lived in the city, and to have avoided hearing other people take the Lord's name in vain would have involved staying inside all the time.

I would need to avoid countless family members including many first degree ones.

 

[athanatos]

Sometimes having the Christian/religious caricature stare at you on the screen is what you need to see your own sin.

I thought that was what The Law is for?

My point is that modern Pharisees (for example) look a little different, and some shows help us see a current or common manifestation because it is in our context.

 

[ReformedChristian]

I find many of the things of family guy distasteful it is not just the mere fact they mock Christ by showing scenes of him engaging in sexual perversion but the Mockery of the sanctity of life. an example they were making fun of Euthanasia at rhe expense of Terry Schivos death disturbing and disrespectful.

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But then my arguement is two fold I guess one could use the program as a lesson to preach the gospel to the extend n explaining how far man will go in his Depravity.